Buying a nuc vs package bees is something to consider, especially if you live in a colder climate like we do. Here in Montana where we only have a few warm months out of the year, honeybees spend a good portion of the year inside the hive because it is too cold outside to leave the hive. This means that our honeybees have less time to make honey than honeybees living in a warmer climate. When starting a new hive with a nuc or package bees, there are pros and cons to consider for each method.
Buying a nuc vs package bees isn’t something we even thought of last year, our first year beekeeping. We were so busy learning about the basics of beekeeping that we didn’t spend any time researching the difference between a nuc or a package of bees. Instead, we took the advice of the local beekeeping club president and put our name on the list to get a package of bees through a regional company.
Our experience with package bees
We bought two packages of honey bees last year. Our bees arrived in May. Each package of bees was inside a small wood box with a wire screen around it and the queen in a little box. There was no comb at all.
We hived them in our homemade Langstroth boxes, which you can read more about here. They settled in well and thrived with all the hundreds of acres of alfalfa surrounding us. But they had to start from scratch in the hive and spend a lot of energy building out comb and filling it with brood before they started focusing on filling frames full of honey.
We live in a colder climate, so honeybees are not active for over half the year. This means that last year when our two bee packages arrived in May, they had about four months to build new comb, hatch new bees (you can read about and see the life cycle of a honey bee in this post) and produce honey. Around here, most folks harvest honey from their bee hives in early September. In our short warm season, that does not give the honey bees a lot of time to produce a lot of extra honey for us to harvest.
Our experience with a nuc of honeybees
This winter my husband started reading more about nucs. A nuc in the beekeeping world is basically a small box set up as temporary hive with a couple frames inside, a queen bee and her worker bees. In the picture below you can see the larger hole on the bottom front of the box where the bees enter/exit their temporary hive.
Nucs tend to be a little more expensive than a package of bees, but they are well ahead of the game when it comes to production. Which ultimately means the ability to make more honey for us to harvest in our short season!
We found a family run apiary advertising on the local Craigslist in our area. We bought three nucs from them and met them at a truck stop off the highway to pick up our new honeybees. What a sight it was! (Unfortunately I didn’t think to get a picture, I was so excited about our new bees!) The back of their pickup truck was filled with small white cardboard boxes each filled with five frames, a queen and her worker bees. There was a small hole on the front of the box for them to enter/exit and a few small air vent holes. For the ride home, they taped the entrance closed so the bees stayed inside while we were driving.
We picked our bees up just before sunset so decided to wait until morning to put them in their new bee boxes. Hiving nucs is a different process than hiving a package of bees. All you have to do is carefully remove the frames, one at a time, from the cardboard box and place them into the bee hive box (this handy tool makes the job much easier than just using a gloved hand!)
My husband let the cardboard nuc boxes sit out by the beehives for the day so all the bees could make their way into their new hives with the queen. Like last year’s package bees, the queen bees are marked with a dot of paint so you can see them.
My husband went out to check on the new beehives a few days after they were put into their new home and they were already filling up the rest of the frames! He put another super (box filled with empty frames) on top of each of the new hives already. Last year with our package of bees, we didn’t need to do that until mid June and here we’re a month before that!
Nuc vs Package Bees-and the winner is?
If you guessed Nuc, you are correct! If you live in a cold climate with a short warm season, getting a nuc is definitely the way to go. Around here, the nucs cost about $20 more than package bees but it is well worth it to get a month ahead in production. We’ll easily make up that difference in money and more when we harvest honey in a few months!
Which do you prefer, nucs or package bees?
Excellent article. Until this year we’ve had hundreds of wild bees to pollinate our gardens and fruit trees but this year it’s like they’ve vanished. I hadn’t planned on getting into beekeeping yet but may have to do so. I live in the desert SW and used to see bees dipping water from my swimming pool. So if I get hives will I have to put out water for the bees? Don’t have a pool anymore.
That’s sad to hear you aren’t seeing the wild bees anymore but I think it is wonderful you have an interest in beekeeping! We don’t keep a water source on our property for the honeybees. They will travel as far as a couple miles for water. There are several creeks, rivers and irrigation ditches not too far from us so they have a lot of access to water. If you don’t have any water sources within a couple miles from your home, you might need to put out some water for them.
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My prayers go out to the family, I know how difficult this is and is going to be. I lost Patsy in June and you are going to experience some “firsts” in the coming months. I hope in the future the good memories you have built will become a source of comfort.
Es la primera vez que entro aqui y con el primer tema de lo personal y lo privado, quede impresionado de lo que puedo aprender de ustedes, gracias por compartir lo que saben y que Dios les siga bendiciendo.
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Did the removal of the pool coincide with the disappearance or shortly after? I wonder if your pool was the only local source since you are in a desert. Your yard may have been the oasis they needed.
If you put out water, have it accessible with small stones coming out of a shallow pool to prevent drownings.
We prefer nucs too, have bought 3 now. We’re in northern NJ & packages just don’t seem to make sense to us, though there are those who espouse the virtues, even in our local area and club. But our club also does a big group nuc purchase from a local apiary every spring.
Good luck with your girls!
We just heard that one of the big local deliveries of package bees was yesterday, almost a month after our nucs arrived! It amazes me to think that our nucs are so far ahead of the game than those package bees since the nucs came with frames AND arrived weeks before. Whereas the package bees are just starting from scratch now. Good luck to you too 🙂
Thanks for this. I’m about to start my adventures in beekeeping and this insight is a great find.
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I’m so grateful to have found this blog! I live in Missoula and all I think about are bees and their forever fruit. While in the process of looking for our first home, we are since unable to venture out as first time keepers. Do you have a good reference for me to contact for bee keeping classes? Maybe one day I’ll be at Bee Day as well picking up my bees… so exciting!
How exciting you want to start beekeeping! If you are in the Missoula area, check out the Emma Dickinson Lifelong Learning Center classes this winter. Every year there is a beekeeping class offered at an affordable price in the winter/spring session. This is the class my husband took and it was REALLY helpful. There is also the online beekeeping class at UM but it is expensive. Good luck!!
I also live In MT…. Hamilton.
My son is interested in Bee Keeping for 4 H …. I was just wondering who your supplier is?
The folks we bought our nucs from last year is Outdoor Bee out of Spokane. Here’s their website with all the info on the nucs they sell and a phone number to contact so you can order. They were great to work with and we’re planning to order more nucs from them again this year. http://www.outdoorbee.com/nucs/
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Bump. We are up in Kalispell, ditto that last comment. Much more interested in getting a couple nuc’s now. Slightly concerned about disease – are these inspected, or just bought “as is”?
The Outdoor Bee company is where we got our nucs. Their website explains their management of the nucs and inspection process http://www.outdoorbee.com/nucs/
Wonderful! So simple. Now we know all pros and cons of the form. Try PDFfiller to fill NV DoT NUCS-4073 here
http://goo.gl/Cdsz3F. It allows you to to fill out PDF files.I am interested in getting a couple of hives going at my cabin but lack enough knowledge. Where do I start? I could use the names of the bee suppliers you use, if that is ok?
I like the package bees valuable information you provide in your articles. Thanks for sharing the buying ncu vs package bees great information blog. Good Luck!
My brother had a buddy thats into bees and got him into it. Well first off he stings himself and him dog for health reasons and they both are doing very well from doing it, and it doesnt even bother the dog at all but saved him life . Now my mother just passed and i had moved in with them to care for her. We just lost her on the15th of Feb. Its been so hard on my father and we are trying to thi k of things tokeep his mind working as hes 85 and he doesnt know whatto do without my mother as they were married for61 years. So hes coming out of retirement and going into the bee keeping business lol yes my brother is going to care for them and teach me so im looking to learn how to not only use the honey but wanting to make candles and things for our health. We put honey in our coffee,learning to cook with it and not stepping up to making other thing. I totally love your site andtha ks tons for sharing with all of us .
Any advice on a source for nucs over in Missoula? We are entering our third year beekeeping and lost 1`4 hives last year to the fires in the Bitterroot. Starting from scratch basically.